Please let's move to "the neuro bureau 2" meeting instead. Cameron just sent the contact.<br><br clear="all">Pierre Bellec, PhD<br>Chercheur adjoint<div>Département d'informatique et de recherche opérationnelle<br>
<div>Centre de recherche de l'institut de Gériatrie de Montréal</div><div><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px">4565, Chemin Queen-Mary<br>Montréal (Québec)<br>H3W 1W5</span></div><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/7/13 Pierre Bellec <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pierre.bellec@criugm.qc.ca">pierre.bellec@criugm.qc.ca</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Dear all,<br><br>Yet another update to the agenda, to include (very briefly) the feedback of Clare and Joshua<br><br><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div class="im"><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> 1. Discussion on organizational principles</font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * open membership ?</font></div>
</div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * active call for new members ? (voluntary?) membership fees ????!!!!! add a description of membership principles on the web and encourage membership on social platforms ? More generally should we try to appeal at the neuroscience community at large or restrict ourselves to a subfield (and be identified as such) ? Right now the neurobureau is more of a resting-state connectome bureau really.<br>
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<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232">
* election of the hubs ? what status for the hubs ? (hierarchy :
members -> elect local hubs -> participate in large group calls,
elect steering commitee, oversee the creation of work groups). Also,
would the hubs be officially in charge of couch surfing facilities, like
providing couchs ? and a bureau ? Do we actually want a bureau/commune
organized at each hub location, or is Berlin enough ?</font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * push students/post-docs for the hubs ? -> what status for "seniors" ? see next point.</font></div>
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* creation of a neurobureau steering committee ? composed of "senior"
members (that would be DM, PB, CK and AF in September I guess ...) ?
what mandate exactly ... run large group calls ? look after money if
there is money one day ? Or something more absolute, like (quoting OL) "</span><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">championing
the cause of open-neuroscience, and looking after the rights of the
student body". I like that a lot I have to say, it has something very
knight-like. After all my laptop is named after Don Quichote's horse.
But I am getting side-tracked here. </span></span>
</div><div><div class="im"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse"><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * roles / workgroups ?</font></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * teams within each group ? specific roles inside the themes ?</font></div>
</span></span></font></div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * creation of a neurobureau senior advisory board ? who ? What for ? (see point below, raised by Clare)<br>
* A specific workgroup dedicated to support students/careers ? Could this be part in a way of the mandate of the senior advisory board ? Could there even be some sort of pairing between members for mentorship purposes ?<br>
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<div><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"><span style="font-size:small;border-collapse:separate"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div class="im"><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif">
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> 2. Quick follow-up on active projects</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * ADHD200</font></div>
</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * art@HBM 2011</font></div></span></span></font></div></span><div class="im">
<span style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(50, 50, 50);font-family:'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"> * art@HBM 2012</span><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div>
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"><span style="font-size:small;border-collapse:separate"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif">
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * blog/facebook/twitter<br></font></div></span><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif">
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> 3. possible new projects</font></div><div><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif">
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * neurobureau workshop ?</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * theme ?</font></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * location ?</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif">
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * how to set the objectives ?</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * educational dimension ?</font></div>
<div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * artists as well ?</font></div><div><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"><span style="font-size:small;border-collapse:separate"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">
<font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * grants</font></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * Human frontier</font></div>
</span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * open neuroscience network</font></div>
</span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * hackaton to put a computational infrastructure together ?</font></div>
</span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><font face="'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" color="#323232"> * online database system ?</font></div>
</span></span></font></div></font></div></span></span></font></div></span><span style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(50, 50, 50);font-family:'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"> * strategy for storage space ?<br>
<br></span></div></div>See you in two hours,<div class="im"><br><br clear="all">Pierre Bellec, PhD<br>Chercheur adjoint<div>Département d'informatique et de recherche opérationnelle<br><div>Centre de recherche de l'institut de Gériatrie de Montréal</div>
<div><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14px">4565, Chemin Queen-Mary<br>Montréal (Québec)<br>H3W 1W5</span></div><div>Université de Montréal<br><a href="http://simexp-lab.org/brainwiki/doku.php?id=pierrebellec" target="_blank">http://simexp-lab.org/brainwiki/doku.php?id=pierrebellec</a><br>
(001)(514) 340 3540 #3367<br><br></div></div><br>
<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2011/7/13 MCLAREN, Donald <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mclaren.donald@gmail.com" target="_blank">mclaren.donald@gmail.com</a>></span><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I think this is the link Clare mentioned:<br>
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<a href="http://www.hhmi.org/resources/labmanagement/moves.html" target="_blank">http://www.hhmi.org/resources/labmanagement/moves.html</a><br>
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I've found it very useful as well.<br>
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On Wednesday, July 13, 2011, Clare Kelly <<a href="mailto:amclarekelly@gmail.com" target="_blank">amclarekelly@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Sorry to chime in so late in the game people, but my ideas for the NB (my ideas will always tend to be more practical and less lofty :b ) are:<br>
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> An open (social, professional) network for anyone involved (even remotely) in all things brain. I think that could, as it has already begun to, include artists and non-scientists. I don't think there needs to be any specification of limiting things to students, postdocs, junior faculty etc... although (see next point) some of the main functions the bureau serves would be in their interest. But a big thing in this regard would be making a major push on the facebook page (or google+ or whatever...) - at OHBM people really wanted to know how they could become members and I really didn't have a good answer for them (besides, if you want to be a member, then you are). Mike mentioned this but we need to eradicate the notion that we are some super cool clique of super cool people part of some super cool secret-not-so-secret organization and establish clearly how someone can get involved.... on that note, I think that something on the NB webpage along the lines of "Who are we", "What are we about" and "How can I become a member?" would be very helpful good (I know that "What is the NB" is already there). Daniel added a Facebook "like" button yesterday but there are probably other buttons (twitter, google+) we can add.<br>
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> An organization that provides support and (currently non-monetary, but potentially monetary in the future) resources for students, postdocs and junior faculty... I talked with Daniel about this yesterday and it's very much in line with (to requote) OL's idea of "championing the cause of open-neuroscience, and looking after the rights of the student body" - but I would not restrict this to "student body" - I can speak as the wife of someone who just started a faculty position and has spent the last 6 months floundering in a terrifying and frustrating fog of the unknown, without much support. I discovered the amazing HHMI resources on "How to start your own lab" about 4 months too late :(<br>
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> Some (I count myself as one) of us are extremely lucky and have amazing, supportive mentors who know a lot about the "system" (university, NIH, whatever) and so can provide guidance and advice when e.g., applying for an NIH grant. Not everyone is so lucky, and not every mentor knows everything... I would really like to bureau to provide as much of that information (that may be in the collective heads of its members) as possible, via a wiki or message board or whatever is the best way.. secrets and tips of the trade or whatever. We could also post job positions, grant announcements etc. I know there are lots of other resources out there (e.g., the HHMI resources I mentioned), but I still think it would be incredibly useful... also more senior members could serve as "spiritual" (there's a better word, but I can't think of it right now) mentors for other (junior) members.... Along those lines, Heather, I'd really like (at some point) for us to talk about the women's organizations you are involved in.<br>
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> Those are the main things that I wanted to vocalize... I concur with almost all of the other points, particularly the workshop idea, the facilitation of grant collaboration among members (and applications from the NB the organization), the creation of senior advisory board, the assignment of specific roles and responsibilities to members of steering committee....<br>
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> Sorry for the late, long and not-exactly-coherent email... just wanted to get some of the thoughts down. Talk to you all later!<br>
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> Clare<br>
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> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Pierre Bellec <<a href="mailto:pierre.bellec@criugm.qc.ca" target="_blank">pierre.bellec@criugm.qc.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear all,<br>
> So here's an updated agenda, based on the feedback I received. There have been a lot of points raised, so I may have forgotten something. Please let me know if you want a specific point added. We won't have time to discuss much (2) and probably not (3) with all the subpoints in there. I've added them mainly to serve as future reference.<br>
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> 1. Discussion on organizational principles<br>
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> * open membership ?<br>
> * active call for new members ? (voluntary?) membership fees ????!!!!!<br>
> * election of the hubs ? what status for the hubs ? (hierarchy : members -> elect local hubs -> participate in large group calls, elect steering commitee, oversee the creation of work groups). Also, would the hubs be officially in charge of couch surfing facilities, like providing couchs ? and a bureau ? Do we actually want a bureau/commune organized at each hub location, or is Berlin enough ?<br>
><br>
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> * push students/post-docs for the hubs ? -> what status for "seniors" ? see next point.<br>
><br>
><br>
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> * creation of a neurobureau steering committee ? composed of "senior" members (that would be DM, PB, CK and AF in September I guess ...) ? what mandate exactly ... run large group calls ? look after money if there is money one day ? Or something more absolute, like (quoting OL) "championing the cause of open-neuroscience, and looking after the rights of the student body". I like that a lot I have to say, it has something very knight-like. After all my laptop is named after Don Quichote's horse. But I am getting side-tracked here.<br>
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> * roles / workgroups ? * teams within each group ? specific roles inside the themes ?<br>
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> * creation of a neurobureau senior advisory board ? who ? What for ?<br>
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> 2. Quick follow-up on active projects * ADHD200<br>
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</div>> --<br>
<div>> Clare Kelly, Ph.D.,<br>
> Associate<br>
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<div><div></div><div>Best Regards, Donald McLaren<br>
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Research Fellow, Department of Neurology, Massachusetts General Hospital and<br>
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