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May 20, 2019  09:05 PM | Jen Labus - UCLA
duplicate connections exporting table
Hi Alfonso,
We are encountering duplicates in the results window (headings: Analysis Unit, Statistic, P-Unc, pFDR, PFwe).
We  sort by connections and see the same connectivity but with different order for example Amygdala- OFC and OFC to Amygdala.
The duplicates remain in the exported table.  Is there a way to limit the results to show a connection one time?

Thanks,
Jen
Attachment: Duplicates.PNG
May 29, 2019  03:05 AM | Jen Labus - UCLA
RE: duplicate connections exporting table
HI Alfonso and group?
Has this been previously addressed?
Has any one else run int this issue?
Jun 12, 2019  05:06 AM | Jen Labus - UCLA
RE: duplicate connections exporting table
Hi Alfonso,
I can live with duplicates. It makes sense that if I select all rois in the graph explorer I will get both region A to region B and Region B to Region A in the output table . However, not all the ROIs are duplicated (see 381-89) and not all of the ROIs have the same calculated FDR values (see 188 to 146 and the same connection 146 to 188). 

188 146 -3.99 0.0001 0.0419
146 188 -3.99 0.0001 0.0399
271 68 -3.96 0.0001 0.0476
68 271 -3.96 0.0001 0.0476
381 89 -3.94 0.0001 0.0064

I am using conn 17a. I have enclosed two new screen shots. Why would 381 to 89 be significant but not 89 to 381?

all the very best,
Jen
Jun 12, 2019  05:06 AM | Jen Labus - UCLA
RE: duplicate connections exporting table
second screen shot same contrast.
Attachment: Seed89screeshot.JPG
Jun 12, 2019  08:06 AM | Pravesh Parekh - National Institute of Mental Health and Neurosciences
RE: duplicate connections exporting table
Hi Jen,

The way Conn applies FDR correction is seed based. For a given seed (say 381), all the target connections' p values will be considered when calculating the FDR cut-off (q value). Vice-versa when looking at 89, the cut-off will be based on the p values obtained from all the p values when considering 89 as the seed. Therefore, it is quite possible that 381-89 is significant but not 89-381 as the correction is dependent on the actual values when considering each of these as a seed.

Here is an older forum post about this: https://www.nitrc.org/forum/message.php?...
and here is a link to a detailed reply from Dr. Alfonso: https://www.nitrc.org/forum/message.php?...


Hope these help

Best
Pravesh