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Feb 12, 2020 04:02 PM | mscahart
Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
Dear all,
I have got a 2 (before intervention vs after intervention) x 2 (patients vs controls) design. With the salience network as a seed (for a seed to voxel analysis), I have got a significant result at the interaction level but not at the t-test level (effect of time within either patients or controls). I would like to work out what is driving this significant result: i.e., is it that performance slightly increases over time for patients while it slightly decreases for controls? Is there a way I can plot the results, with a break down of the values for each of the 4 groups (before-patients; before-controls; after-patients; after-controls)?
Thanks
Marie
I have got a 2 (before intervention vs after intervention) x 2 (patients vs controls) design. With the salience network as a seed (for a seed to voxel analysis), I have got a significant result at the interaction level but not at the t-test level (effect of time within either patients or controls). I would like to work out what is driving this significant result: i.e., is it that performance slightly increases over time for patients while it slightly decreases for controls? Is there a way I can plot the results, with a break down of the values for each of the 4 groups (before-patients; before-controls; after-patients; after-controls)?
Thanks
Marie
Feb 12, 2020 05:02 PM | Alfonso Nieto-Castanon - Boston University
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
Dear Marie,
Sure, simply click on the "Plot effects" button within the seed-to-voxel results explorer window (the button with a barplot-looking icon) and you should see just that (for each significant cluster in your results) e.g. something like the attached image
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
Sure, simply click on the "Plot effects" button within the seed-to-voxel results explorer window (the button with a barplot-looking icon) and you should see just that (for each significant cluster in your results) e.g. something like the attached image
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
Dear all,
I have got a 2 (before intervention vs after intervention) x 2 (patients vs controls) design. With the salience network as a seed (for a seed to voxel analysis), I have got a significant result at the interaction level but not at the t-test level (effect of time within either patients or controls). I would like to work out what is driving this significant result: i.e., is it that performance slightly increases over time for patients while it slightly decreases for controls? Is there a way I can plot the results, with a break down of the values for each of the 4 groups (before-patients; before-controls; after-patients; after-controls)?
Thanks
Marie
I have got a 2 (before intervention vs after intervention) x 2 (patients vs controls) design. With the salience network as a seed (for a seed to voxel analysis), I have got a significant result at the interaction level but not at the t-test level (effect of time within either patients or controls). I would like to work out what is driving this significant result: i.e., is it that performance slightly increases over time for patients while it slightly decreases for controls? Is there a way I can plot the results, with a break down of the values for each of the 4 groups (before-patients; before-controls; after-patients; after-controls)?
Thanks
Marie
Feb 12, 2020 05:02 PM | mscahart
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
Dear Alfonso,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply. I clicked on the "plot effects" button, however I do not get a similar result to the image you attached to your reply. I have attached a screenshot of what I get. What did I do wrong?
Marie
Thank you so much for your prompt reply. I clicked on the "plot effects" button, however I do not get a similar result to the image you attached to your reply. I have attached a screenshot of what I get. What did I do wrong?
Marie
Feb 12, 2020 07:02 PM | mscahart
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
.... and when I click "results" I get only 1 bar instead of 4
(attached).
Feb 12, 2020 09:02 PM | Alfonso Nieto-Castanon - Boston University
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
Dear Marie,
sorry about that, you are doing nothing wrong, simply use the latest release of CONN for this (it stores some additional info when performing second-level analyses precisely to be able to more easily create these post-hoc figures).
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
sorry about that, you are doing nothing wrong, simply use the latest release of CONN for this (it stores some additional info when performing second-level analyses precisely to be able to more easily create these post-hoc figures).
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
Dear Alfonso,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply. I clicked on the "plot effects" button, however I do not get a similar result to the image you attached to your reply. I have attached a screenshot of what I get. What did I do wrong?
Marie
Thank you so much for your prompt reply. I clicked on the "plot effects" button, however I do not get a similar result to the image you attached to your reply. I have attached a screenshot of what I get. What did I do wrong?
Marie
Feb 12, 2020 10:02 PM | mscahart
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
Thanks, Alfonso!
Are my data going to be compromised if I open my current CONN project with a new release of CONN? Do I need to start a brand new project and re-preprocess my data?
Marie
Are my data going to be compromised if I open my current CONN project with a new release of CONN? Do I need to start a brand new project and re-preprocess my data?
Marie
Feb 12, 2020 10:02 PM | Alfonso Nieto-Castanon - Boston University
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
That's a good point. Which version are you using now? In general,
CONN will import your old-version project and you can simply
continue working on the new version without a problem. That said,
make sure that you have already finished processing all subjects,
conditions, etc.. If that is not the case then it is recommended to
check the ChangeLog (e.g. click on the release name in the
downloads page) and look all changes marked with (*) signs between
your current version and the latest version, to see if any of those
changes may affect your study.
Also, to avoid potential problems, you could always duplicate your conn project (e.g. copy your conn_myproject.mat file and associated conn_myproject directory to a different location) and then work on the copied version only with the new release until you feel confident that everything is working fine, or until you decide to revert to the old version and just delete the copy).
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
Also, to avoid potential problems, you could always duplicate your conn project (e.g. copy your conn_myproject.mat file and associated conn_myproject directory to a different location) and then work on the copied version only with the new release until you feel confident that everything is working fine, or until you decide to revert to the old version and just delete the copy).
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
Thanks, Alfonso!
Are my data going to be compromised if I open my current CONN project with a new release of CONN? Do I need to start a brand new project and re-preprocess my data?
Marie
Are my data going to be compromised if I open my current CONN project with a new release of CONN? Do I need to start a brand new project and re-preprocess my data?
Marie
Feb 12, 2020 11:02 PM | mscahart
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
Dear Alfonso,
I am currently using the 18b version. I am guessing there is no way I can get those plots using that version? If not, then I will download the 19b version that has just been released, making sure I duplicate my CONN project first, just to be on the safe side!
Many thanks for being so helpful
Marie
I am currently using the 18b version. I am guessing there is no way I can get those plots using that version? If not, then I will download the 19b version that has just been released, making sure I duplicate my CONN project first, just to be on the safe side!
Many thanks for being so helpful
Marie
Feb 13, 2020 01:02 PM | Alfonso Nieto-Castanon - Boston University
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
Dear Marie,
Well, it is possible to do something similar in 18b, but it requires to follow a somewhat convoluted procedure (see this thread for a related example), so I am a bit hesitant to recommend that approach (but of course please feel free to give it a try!)
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
Well, it is possible to do something similar in 18b, but it requires to follow a somewhat convoluted procedure (see this thread for a related example), so I am a bit hesitant to recommend that approach (but of course please feel free to give it a try!)
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
Dear Alfonso,
I am currently using the 18b version. I am guessing there is no way I can get those plots using that version? If not, then I will download the 19b version that has just been released, making sure I duplicate my CONN project first, just to be on the safe side!
Many thanks for being so helpful
Marie
I am currently using the 18b version. I am guessing there is no way I can get those plots using that version? If not, then I will download the 19b version that has just been released, making sure I duplicate my CONN project first, just to be on the safe side!
Many thanks for being so helpful
Marie
Feb 13, 2020 04:02 PM | mscahart
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
Hi Alfonso,
Would you mind letting me know what that thread is called as the link you sent in your previous message is not valid?
Thank you!
Marie
Would you mind letting me know what that thread is called as the link you sent in your previous message is not valid?
Thank you!
Marie
Feb 14, 2020 12:02 PM | Alfonso Nieto-Castanon - Boston University
RE: Plotting the values for each group (interaction)
the link is https://www.nitrc.org/forum/message.php?...
and the thread is called "Seed-to-voxel analysis, importing values"
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
and the thread is called "Seed-to-voxel analysis, importing values"
Best
Alfonso
Originally posted by mscahart:
Hi Alfonso,
Would you mind letting me know what that thread is called as the link you sent in your previous message is not valid?
Thank you!
Marie
Would you mind letting me know what that thread is called as the link you sent in your previous message is not valid?
Thank you!
Marie