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Dec 21, 2017 12:12 PM | Jakub Jasieniak - Centrum Onkologii
MITK Diffusion and our protocol
Hello, we use 2 independent protocols-
1.IVIM: b=0(NSA=3),10(NSA=3),30(NSA=3),50(NSA=3),75(NSA=3),100(NSA=4),150(NSA=4),200(NSA=4),500(NSA=4),900(NSA=6)
2.Kurtosis: b=0(NSA=1),200(NSA=2),500(NSA=3),750(NSA=4),1000(NSA=5), 1500(NSA=7), 2000(NSA=8)
For all b we use 3 gradient`s directions.
Is it possible to use MITK Diffusion to analysing it? Because I have a problem with it.
1.IVIM: b=0(NSA=3),10(NSA=3),30(NSA=3),50(NSA=3),75(NSA=3),100(NSA=4),150(NSA=4),200(NSA=4),500(NSA=4),900(NSA=6)
2.Kurtosis: b=0(NSA=1),200(NSA=2),500(NSA=3),750(NSA=4),1000(NSA=5), 1500(NSA=7), 2000(NSA=8)
For all b we use 3 gradient`s directions.
Is it possible to use MITK Diffusion to analysing it? Because I have a problem with it.
Jan 8, 2018 03:01 PM | Corinne McGill - MUSC
RE: MITK Diffusion and our protocol
Hello Jakub,
This forum is for DKE, not MITK. If you would like to use our software, DKE requires 15 directions for each b-value unless you make other assumptions for an underdetermined system.
Thank you,
Corinne McGill
This forum is for DKE, not MITK. If you would like to use our software, DKE requires 15 directions for each b-value unless you make other assumptions for an underdetermined system.
Thank you,
Corinne McGill
Jan 11, 2018 12:01 PM | Jakub Jasieniak - Centrum Onkologii
RE: MITK Diffusion and our protocol
Hello Corrine,
thank you for response. It`s my mistake- I would like to use DKE of course.
1) Have you any manual to configure DKE with other assumptions?
2) The protocol of DKI with 15 directions for each b-value isnt useful in clinical study (too long study time), why do you use it so?
Best regards,
Jakub Jasieniak
thank you for response. It`s my mistake- I would like to use DKE of course.
1) Have you any manual to configure DKE with other assumptions?
2) The protocol of DKI with 15 directions for each b-value isnt useful in clinical study (too long study time), why do you use it so?
Best regards,
Jakub Jasieniak
Jan 11, 2018 02:01 PM | Corinne McGill - MUSC
RE: MITK Diffusion and our protocol
Hello Jakub,
We do not currently have a manual for configuring DKE with other assumptions, but the following page gives a brief explanation of the theory as well as some example protocols. You will see that we have a DKI protocol that takes under 6 minutes.
http://academicdepartments.musc.edu/cbi/dki/protocols.html
I have also attached a paper that you may find useful.
Thanks for using DKE!
Corinne McGill
We do not currently have a manual for configuring DKE with other assumptions, but the following page gives a brief explanation of the theory as well as some example protocols. You will see that we have a DKI protocol that takes under 6 minutes.
http://academicdepartments.musc.edu/cbi/dki/protocols.html
I have also attached a paper that you may find useful.
Thanks for using DKE!
Corinne McGill
Jan 12, 2018 12:01 PM | Jakub Jasieniak - Centrum Onkologii
RE: MITK Diffusion and our protocol
Hello Corrine,
thank you. I see that you use only 1 NSA for each b-value, what about the quality of the image for high b-value? We have a lot of trouble to getting a good quality for high b-value, so we use NSA>1 (for example b=2000, NSA=8)- without that, we get a completely black images.
Can you send me an example of images for b=2000 and NSA=1?
Best regards,
Jakub Jasieniak
thank you. I see that you use only 1 NSA for each b-value, what about the quality of the image for high b-value? We have a lot of trouble to getting a good quality for high b-value, so we use NSA>1 (for example b=2000, NSA=8)- without that, we get a completely black images.
Can you send me an example of images for b=2000 and NSA=1?
Best regards,
Jakub Jasieniak
Jan 12, 2018 06:01 PM | Corinne McGill - MUSC
RE: MITK Diffusion and our protocol
Hello Jakub,
We've been acquiring decent data with b-values up to 10000. What kind of scanner are you using?
See example data on the page below.
http://academicdepartments.musc.edu/cbi/dki/dke.html
Thanks,
Corinne McGill
We've been acquiring decent data with b-values up to 10000. What kind of scanner are you using?
See example data on the page below.
http://academicdepartments.musc.edu/cbi/dki/dke.html
Thanks,
Corinne McGill
Jan 15, 2018 08:01 AM | Jakub Jasieniak - Centrum Onkologii
RE: MITK Diffusion and our protocol
Hello Carine,
we use Skyra 3T. I have one more question: do you use your protocol of DKI for head study only? Because I`m looking for an example abdomen`s protocols of DKI.
Thanks,
Jakub Jasieniak
we use Skyra 3T. I have one more question: do you use your protocol of DKI for head study only? Because I`m looking for an example abdomen`s protocols of DKI.
Thanks,
Jakub Jasieniak
Jan 16, 2018 03:01 PM | Corinne McGill - MUSC
RE: MITK Diffusion and our protocol
Hello Jakub,
We mainly study MR images of the brain. I have attached a paper that you may find useful.
Thanks,
Corinne McGill
We mainly study MR images of the brain. I have attached a paper that you may find useful.
Thanks,
Corinne McGill