open-discussion > RE: DTIPrep is not recognizing B0 Images
Jun 11, 2020  08:06 PM | Martin Styner
RE: DTIPrep is not recognizing B0 Images
Originally posted by Steven Meisler:
Hello DTIPrep team,

I am working with DWI data that have multiple b-vals (0, 1000, 1500, 3000). However, for whatever reason (I did not collect the data), each entry in the bval text file is slightly off from the standard number. For example, at some of the entries where 3000 should be, 3010 is there instead. This was also true for the baseline scans, where there were 5s instead of 0s. As one may expect, when I ran these data under DTIPrep (1.2.4, Linux, also tested 1.2.9) with the default protocol, I received an error: FAIL:Single b-value DWI without a b0/baseline. I presume this is because there were 5s in place of 0s in the bvals. In addition, I also receive the following error: DWI data error. Not all the gradient directions have same repetition. GradientNumber= XX 1 != 7. Something else peculiar with the output, however, is that every QCed b-value for any slice that survived correction was 3010, regardless of the slice's original bvalue. 

I made a script to change every 5 to a 0 in the bvals, but even then, I see that DTIPrep still chooses to ignore these b0 images, and the problems listed above persist. Hopefully these problems are related. Please let me know if you would need any additional information to help diagnose the problem.

Thanks,
Steven
Hi Steven

yes, we are aware that DTIPrep does not recognize low b-values as baselines. The plan is for the next version to have a threshold parameter to identify baseline. At the moment, manually setting/hacking these to 0 is the best workaround.

The other error, you should be able to safely disregard.

Wrt the output QC data: how did you assess the b-value from the output file (as only the max b-value is explicitly stored in NRRD, the other b-values are computed as a ratio to the max b-value via the 2-norm of the gradient direction)? Did it look very different in the input DWI file?

Best
Martin

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