[Neurobureau-hubs] conf call meeting notes wiki

Wed Jul 13 12:32:31 PDT 2011

hi all, i made a wiki documenting some my meeting notes.  it can be found
here:
http://openconnectomeproject.org/wiki/neuro-bureau-conf-call-meeting-notes-7132011/

please add/correct/discard/etc if desirable

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On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Pierre Bellec
<pierre.bellec at criugm.qc.ca>wrote:

> Please let's move to "the neuro bureau 2" meeting instead. Cameron just
> sent the contact.
>
>
> Pierre Bellec, PhD
> Chercheur adjoint
> Département d'informatique et de recherche opérationnelle
> Centre de recherche de l'institut de Gériatrie de Montréal
> 4565, Chemin Queen-Mary
> Montréal (Québec)
> H3W 1W5
> Université de Montréal
> http://simexp-lab.org/brainwiki/doku.php?id=pierrebellec
> (001)(514) 340 3540 #3367
>
>
>
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> 2011/7/13 Pierre Bellec <pierre.bellec at criugm.qc.ca>
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Yet another update to the agenda, to include (very briefly) the feedback
>> of Clare and Joshua
>>
>>  1. Discussion on organizational principles
>>     * open membership ?
>>     * active call for new members ? (voluntary?) membership fees ????!!!!!
>> add a description of membership principles on the web and encourage
>> membership on social platforms ? More generally should we try to appeal at
>> the neuroscience community at large or restrict ourselves to a subfield (and
>> be identified as such) ? Right now the neurobureau is more of a
>> resting-state connectome bureau really.
>>      * election of the hubs ? what status for the hubs ? (hierarchy :
>> members -> elect local hubs -> participate in large group calls, elect
>> steering commitee, oversee the creation of work groups). Also, would the
>> hubs be officially in charge of couch surfing facilities, like providing
>> couchs ? and a bureau ? Do we actually want a bureau/commune organized at
>> each hub location, or is Berlin enough ?
>>     * push students/post-docs for the hubs ? -> what status for "seniors"
>> ? see next point.
>>     * creation of a neurobureau steering committee ? composed of "senior"
>> members (that would be DM, PB, CK and AF in September I guess ...) ? what
>> mandate exactly ... run large group calls ? look after money if there is
>> money one day ? Or something more absolute, like (quoting OL) "championing
>> the cause of open-neuroscience, and looking after the rights of the student
>> body". I like that a lot I have to say, it has something very knight-like.
>> After all my laptop is named after Don Quichote's horse. But I am getting
>> side-tracked here.
>>     * roles / workgroups ?
>>     * teams within each group ? specific roles inside the themes ?
>>     * creation of a neurobureau senior advisory board ? who ? What for ?
>> (see point below, raised by Clare)
>>     * A specific workgroup dedicated to support students/careers ? Could
>> this be part in a way of the mandate of the senior advisory board ? Could
>> there even be some sort of pairing between members for mentorship purposes ?
>>
>>    2. Quick follow-up on active projects
>>     * ADHD200
>>     * art at HBM 2011
>>     * art at HBM 2012
>>      * blog/facebook/twitter
>>  3. possible new projects
>>     * neurobureau workshop ?
>>       * theme ?
>>       * location ?
>>       * how to set the objectives ?
>>       * educational dimension ?
>>       * artists as well ?
>>     * grants
>>       * Human frontier
>>     * open neuroscience network
>>       * hackaton to put a computational infrastructure together ?
>>       * online database system ?
>>       * strategy for storage space ?
>>
>> See you in two hours,
>>
>>
>> Pierre Bellec, PhD
>> Chercheur adjoint
>> Département d'informatique et de recherche opérationnelle
>> Centre de recherche de l'institut de Gériatrie de Montréal
>> 4565, Chemin Queen-Mary
>> Montréal (Québec)
>> H3W 1W5
>> Université de Montréal
>> http://simexp-lab.org/brainwiki/doku.php?id=pierrebellec
>> (001)(514) 340 3540 #3367
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/7/13 MCLAREN, Donald <mclaren.donald at gmail.com>
>>
>> I think this is the link Clare mentioned:
>>>
>>> http://www.hhmi.org/resources/labmanagement/moves.html
>>>
>>> I've found it very useful as well.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2011, Clare Kelly <amclarekelly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Sorry to chime in so late in the game people, but my ideas for the NB
>>> (my ideas will always tend to be more practical and less lofty :b ) are:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > An open (social, professional) network for anyone involved (even
>>> remotely) in all things brain. I think that could, as it has already begun
>>> to, include artists and non-scientists. I don't think there needs to be any
>>> specification of limiting things to students, postdocs, junior faculty
>>> etc... although (see next point) some of the main functions the bureau
>>> serves would be in their interest. But a big thing in this regard would be
>>> making a major push on the facebook page (or google+ or whatever...) - at
>>> OHBM people really wanted to know how they could become members and I really
>>> didn't have a good answer for them (besides, if you want to be a member,
>>> then you are). Mike mentioned this but we need to eradicate the notion that
>>> we are some super cool clique of super cool people part of some super cool
>>> secret-not-so-secret organization and establish clearly how someone can get
>>> involved.... on that note, I think that something on the NB webpage along
>>> the lines of "Who are we", "What are we about" and "How can I become a
>>> member?" would be very helpful good (I know that "What is the NB" is already
>>> there). Daniel added a Facebook "like" button yesterday but there are
>>> probably other buttons (twitter, google+) we can add.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > An organization that provides support and (currently non-monetary, but
>>> potentially monetary in the future) resources for students, postdocs and
>>> junior faculty... I talked with Daniel about this yesterday and it's very
>>> much in line with (to requote) OL's idea of  "championing the cause of
>>> open-neuroscience, and looking after the rights of the student body" - but I
>>> would not restrict this to "student body" - I can speak as the wife of
>>> someone who just started a faculty position and has spent the last 6 months
>>> floundering in a terrifying and frustrating fog of the unknown, without much
>>> support. I discovered the amazing HHMI resources on "How to start your own
>>> lab" about 4 months too late :(
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Some (I count myself as one) of us are extremely lucky and have
>>> amazing, supportive mentors who know a lot about the "system" (university,
>>> NIH, whatever) and so can provide guidance and advice when e.g., applying
>>> for an NIH grant. Not everyone is so lucky, and not every mentor knows
>>> everything... I would really like to bureau to provide as much of that
>>> information (that may be in the collective heads of its members) as
>>> possible, via a wiki or message board or whatever is the best way.. secrets
>>> and tips of the trade or whatever. We could also post job positions, grant
>>> announcements etc. I know there are lots of other resources out there (e.g.,
>>> the HHMI resources I mentioned), but I still think it would be incredibly
>>> useful... also more senior members could serve as "spiritual" (there's a
>>> better word, but I can't think of it right now) mentors for other (junior)
>>> members.... Along those lines, Heather, I'd really like (at some point) for
>>> us to talk about the women's organizations you are involved in.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Those are the main things that I wanted to vocalize... I concur with
>>> almost all of the other points, particularly the workshop idea, the
>>> facilitation of grant collaboration among members (and applications from the
>>> NB the organization),  the creation of senior advisory board, the assignment
>>> of specific roles and responsibilities to members of steering committee....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sorry for the late, long and not-exactly-coherent email... just wanted
>>> to get some of the thoughts down. Talk to you all later!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Clare
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Pierre Bellec <
>>> pierre.bellec at criugm.qc.ca> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dear all,
>>> > So here's an updated agenda, based on the feedback I received. There
>>> have been a lot of points raised, so I may have forgotten something. Please
>>> let me know if you want a specific point added. We won't have time to
>>> discuss much (2) and probably not (3) with all the subpoints in there. I've
>>> added them mainly to serve as future reference.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   1. Discussion on organizational principles
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     * open membership ?
>>> >     * active call for new members ? (voluntary?) membership fees
>>> ????!!!!!
>>> >     * election of the hubs ? what status for the hubs ? (hierarchy :
>>> members -> elect local hubs -> participate in large group calls, elect
>>> steering commitee, oversee the creation of work groups). Also, would the
>>> hubs be officially in charge of couch surfing facilities, like providing
>>> couchs ? and a bureau ? Do we actually want a bureau/commune organized at
>>> each hub location, or is Berlin enough ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     * push students/post-docs for the hubs ? -> what status for
>>> "seniors" ? see next point.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     * creation of a neurobureau steering committee ? composed of
>>> "senior" members (that would be DM, PB, CK and AF in September I guess ...)
>>> ? what mandate exactly ... run large group calls ? look after money if there
>>> is money one day ? Or something more absolute, like (quoting OL)
>>> "championing the cause of open-neuroscience, and looking after the rights of
>>> the student body". I like that a lot I have to say, it has something very
>>> knight-like. After all my laptop is named after Don Quichote's horse. But I
>>> am getting side-tracked here.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     * roles / workgroups ?    * teams within each group ? specific
>>> roles inside the themes ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     * creation of a neurobureau senior advisory board ? who ? What for
>>> ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   2. Quick follow-up on active projects    * ADHD200
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Clare Kelly, Ph.D.,
>>> > Associate
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards, Donald McLaren
>>> =================
>>> D.G. McLaren, Ph.D.
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>>> Research Fellow, Department of Neurology, Massachusetts General Hospital
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