[Neurobureau-hubs] brainhacker school

Wed Jan 21 08:08:42 PST 2015

While the idea of 1-week projects sound great in this discussion; however,
I am not sure how one convinces funding agencies to support the concept and
will make it harder to get funding for a longer course; not to mention the
cost to attendees for food and lodging.

My original comment was not that we require papers, but rather that there
are several more long-term projects that would use new techniques that
could lead to publications.

The key is that we need some metric to measure the success of the course.
If one can develop a metric for measuring the impact of custom
visualization, curating data, or running pre-processing, then I think this
would make the 1 week projects more favorable.

One could also make more of the lectures in the first week, and make more
of the second week a work period.

There are already several 1-2 week courses teaching advanced brain imaging
techniques:
http://neurometrika.org/Courses
https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/training/courses

Past brainhack's have gotten minimal funding and have only last 1-3 days.
For longer courses, we'll need more support.

The big questions -- how do we turn this into something that happens every
year or every other year and how do you make it affordable?

The brain connectivity conference was only a few days and was quite
expensive.

Best Regards, Donald McLaren
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Pierre Bellec <pierre.bellec at criugm.qc.ca>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I agree with Cameron. 50/50 may be a good balance for this type of event.
> With the evenings adding another 25 or so, if needed. If we're able to
> attract good instructors there should be no problem attracting good
> participants. I don't think we'll have many instructors willing to commit
> for a full 2 weeks. For those who do, the brainhack school (brain imaging
> hackademy?) shouldn't be full-time teaching, again more like half-time, the
> other half being more of a collaborative retreat. Maybe some instructors
> could come for only one week, or even 1 or 2 days? Again, agree with
> Cameron regarding the publication part, focus should be on learning,
> I think it would be better to have several small projects that you can
> actually finish and feel good about, rather than setting an extremely
> ambitious goal by default. I'd be afraid that in this case people would
> tend to jump on material they already know rather than immerse themselves
> in totally new techniques.
>
> Maybe students could get an overview of topics by the instructor at the
> beginning of the week, and then come up on their own with an idea for a
> one-week project, in interaction with other attendees & the instructors to
> ensure feasibility ? They would have to define a list of necessary tools,
> milestones and schedule. Having two one-week projects would also help
> manage instructors coming for a short time (we would have a reset with a
> new set of projects in the middle of the school). Examples of projects
> could be setting up a web-browser interface for custom visualization of
> one's dataset/analysis, curating paper's data and implementing a
> meta-analysis on a particular subject using brainspell, running
> preprocessing + ReHo analysis using CAPAC, designing an experiment and
> implementing a pilot (EEG, MRI, psychophysics, BCI). What do you guys think
> about the format?
>
> Best,
>
> Pierre Bellec
> http://simexp-lab.org/brainwiki/doku.php?id=pierrebellec
> Telephone              (1) 514 713 5596
> SIMEXP lab            http://simexp-lab.org
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Alexandre R Franco <eng.franco at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is what Cameron is talking about:
>>
>> http://www.ipam.ucla.edu/programs/summer-schools/summer-school-mathematics-in-brain-imaging/?tab=schedule
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Cameron Craddock <cameron.craddock at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to being back the old mathmatics in brain imaging format.
>> That was two weeks and well attended.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 12:43 PM, rbrto <robertotoro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> work to publish a paper? like the 1 month things at Santa Fe institut
>> for complex systems... People were very happy to come, because they
>> would have a paper by the end of the month
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Chris Filo Gorgolewski
>> <krzysztof.gorgolewski at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is a pretty cool idea, but Mike is right - we need to figure out how
>> to
>> make it easy for participants to convince their supervisors to get funding
>> for this.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>>
>> On Mon Jan 19 2015 at 7:37:37 AM rbrto <robertotoro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I want 12 months a year of that...
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Pierre Bellec
>> <pierre.bellec at criugm.qc.ca> wrote:
>>
>> @Cameron agreed, 2 weeks is more realistic.
>>
>> @Daniel, re Banff, there have an on-going program to host workshops in
>> mathematics. They may have a long workshop format, I'll look into it.
>> For
>> locations, the problem is not much different than hosting a traditional
>> brainhack, with maybe more emphasis on local attendants.
>>
>> @Roberto
>> Re Nifti, that's recoding nii2mnc, or even re-inventing the minc format.
>> Looks like some folks are taking this task seriously:
>>
>> http://www.frontiersin.org/10.3389/conf.fninf.2013.09.00069/event_abstract
>>
>> Re FSL, you never know what we'll discover.
>> http://youtu.be/HdWRTleizFU?t=10m54s
>>
>> Re HCP, trying to test the level of actual security of their database
>> may
>> indeed be interesting & useful.
>>
>> Now, regarding what this brainhack school would look like, I guess it
>> would
>> be like a longer version of brainhack, with most of the time devoted for
>> attendants to work on their own projects, self-initiated and managed. We
>> would still have well identified education talks & experts of various
>> tools
>> available onsite, some general (version control, programming) and some
>> more
>> specialized (e.g. AFNI), again very much like brainhack. We could also
>> have
>> some more maker-oriented resources, such as 3D printing, EEG set, or
>> even an
>> MRI depending on the location (I am pretty sure this could be arranged
>> in
>> Montreal or Leipzig for example). Maybe even a vibrating shirt, who
>> knows.
>> In two weeks, participants may be able to take advantage of the
>> availability
>> of large datasets and computational resources, which has not been the
>> case
>> in the short version of brainhack. Also, unlike the short brainhack,
>> participants may be able to actually deliver a concrete output. Finally,
>> the
>> event should be family friendly for obvious reasons :) I'm sure my kids
>> could totally work their way through a two weeks lego projects,
>> especially
>> if we throw in some quadropters as well.
>>
>>
>> Pierre Bellec
>> http://simexp-lab.org/brainwiki/doku.php?id=pierrebellec
>> Telephone              (1) 514 713 5596
>> SIMEXP lab            http://simexp-lab.org
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM, rbrto <robertotoro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes!! Brainhacker school!! We teach people to read the nifti data
>> directly from the file with an hex editor, p0wn the unused fields and
>> write the results in new fancy formats!!! Make FSL do new types of
>> analyses by using buffer overflows, etc :)
>> I'm already loving it!!
>> (anyone tried sql injection in HCP??)
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Daniel Margulies
>> <daniel.margulies at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I love the idea, Pierre,
>>
>> Any leads on the possibility of doing this as a retreat at the Banff
>> Center?
>> Perhaps there are other locations that might be possible as well?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Pierre Bellec
>> <pierre.bellec at criugm.qc.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Just ran into this:
>> https://www.hackerschool.com/
>>
>> We should probably try to organize a summer brainhacker school
>> modeled
>> after this. 3 months is a tad long, but one month could be doable,
>> especially if we get, say, the banff center to host the event.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Pierre Bellec
>> http://simexp-lab.org/brainwiki/doku.php?id=pierrebellec
>> Telephone              (1) 514 713 5596
>> SIMEXP lab            http://simexp-lab.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
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