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Aug 8, 2012 04:08 PM | Hanchuan Peng
RE: .SWC file problems?
Different programs and different
parameters may lead to different results (i.e. various # of
reconstruction nodes, etc), of course.
In Vaa3D-Neuron result, multiple segments may be saved in the same swc file. This is NOT a bug, indeed, this makes it is more flexible and powerful to save any reconstruction.
But suppose you have a connect tree in the reconstruction, and the segments have been saved separately, and you want to eliminate the -1's. You can go to Vaa3D and right-click the neuron in a 3D viewer, and from the pop-up menu select "join all neuron segments and remove redundant nodes".
Note, if you directly drag and drop a swc file into Vaa3D, without having an image, you can directly open it in the 3D viewer. But when you right click, you will have to select "Edit the neuron", which will decompose the neuron structure first. And then when you right click the neuron again, you will see the "join all neuron segments and remove redundant nodes" pop-up menu-item.
-Hanchuan
Originally posted by Jesús Pujol:
In Vaa3D-Neuron result, multiple segments may be saved in the same swc file. This is NOT a bug, indeed, this makes it is more flexible and powerful to save any reconstruction.
But suppose you have a connect tree in the reconstruction, and the segments have been saved separately, and you want to eliminate the -1's. You can go to Vaa3D and right-click the neuron in a 3D viewer, and from the pop-up menu select "join all neuron segments and remove redundant nodes".
Note, if you directly drag and drop a swc file into Vaa3D, without having an image, you can directly open it in the 3D viewer. But when you right click, you will have to select "Edit the neuron", which will decompose the neuron structure first. And then when you right click the neuron again, you will see the "join all neuron segments and remove redundant nodes" pop-up menu-item.
-Hanchuan
Originally posted by Jesús Pujol:
Thanks for your quick reply Hanchuan.
Since I don't have previous experience with neuronal reconstructions and further analysis, I am just worried that SWC files that give the same reconstruction in Vaa3D but somehow differ in the text file (like the examples I posted), give different results when morphometric analysis are performed.
I also noticed that in the SWC files I get (see the 2 examples I posted) there are several nodes with parent column values = -1. I understand that this means that these nodes are not coming from any of the other nodes. I expected this for the startting node but not for other nodes. I checked your SWC test data and several SWC files from other labs that I found in Neuromorpho and I never observed this. Is it a problem?
Jesus.
Since I don't have previous experience with neuronal reconstructions and further analysis, I am just worried that SWC files that give the same reconstruction in Vaa3D but somehow differ in the text file (like the examples I posted), give different results when morphometric analysis are performed.
I also noticed that in the SWC files I get (see the 2 examples I posted) there are several nodes with parent column values = -1. I understand that this means that these nodes are not coming from any of the other nodes. I expected this for the startting node but not for other nodes. I checked your SWC test data and several SWC files from other labs that I found in Neuromorpho and I never observed this. Is it a problem?
Jesus.
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| Title | Author | Date |
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| Jesús Pujol | Aug 6, 2012 | |
| Hanchuan Peng | Aug 8, 2012 | |
| Jesús Pujol | Aug 8, 2012 | |
| Hanchuan Peng | Aug 8, 2012 | |
| Jesús Pujol | Aug 9, 2012 | |
