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Oct 16, 2016 01:10 AM | Tanmay Nath
Motion correction
Hi,
I just ran few subjects with DTI prep and computed the mean absolute RMS motion using FSl. I compared the mean absolute RMS motion before and after DTIprep. But strangely for some subjects the mean absolute RMS motion was higher for subjects after DTI prep.
Any thoughts why is it so?
Thanks
I just ran few subjects with DTI prep and computed the mean absolute RMS motion using FSl. I compared the mean absolute RMS motion before and after DTIprep. But strangely for some subjects the mean absolute RMS motion was higher for subjects after DTI prep.
Any thoughts why is it so?
Thanks
Oct 17, 2016 01:10 PM | Martin Styner
RE: Motion correction
I assume you meant FSL (using fsl_motion_outliers)?
Not sure how the RMS motion is computed, and this could be an artifact of the particular program you are using to compute the motion. If there were such a thing as a perfect way to measure motion, we would simply use that measure as a goal to optimize. But any measure introduces a bias to its assumptions.
But it is certainly not impossible for DTIPrep (or any motion correction, such as in FSL) to make things worse. Especially if there is no motion present, a registration process (to correct the potential motion) may correct for a larger motion than actually present (due to the high noise, low SNR).
Martin
Not sure how the RMS motion is computed, and this could be an artifact of the particular program you are using to compute the motion. If there were such a thing as a perfect way to measure motion, we would simply use that measure as a goal to optimize. But any measure introduces a bias to its assumptions.
But it is certainly not impossible for DTIPrep (or any motion correction, such as in FSL) to make things worse. Especially if there is no motion present, a registration process (to correct the potential motion) may correct for a larger motion than actually present (due to the high noise, low SNR).
Martin
Oct 19, 2016 03:10 PM | James Hartzell
RE: Motion correction
Hi
I have a related question.
With the rot_bvecs script one can adjust the bvec gradient orientations to the applied motion correction and eddy current correction in the eddy_correct script.
Is there a way to do the same with DTIPrep--i.e., adjust the gradient vectors according to the applied motion correction?
Originally posted by Martin Styner:
I have a related question.
With the rot_bvecs script one can adjust the bvec gradient orientations to the applied motion correction and eddy current correction in the eddy_correct script.
Is there a way to do the same with DTIPrep--i.e., adjust the gradient vectors according to the applied motion correction?
Originally posted by Martin Styner:
I assume you meant FSL
(using fsl_motion_outliers)?
Not sure how the RMS motion is computed, and this could be an artifact of the particular program you are using to compute the motion. If there were such a thing as a perfect way to measure motion, we would simply use that measure as a goal to optimize. But any measure introduces a bias to its assumptions.
But it is certainly not impossible for DTIPrep (or any motion correction, such as in FSL) to make things worse. Especially if there is no motion present, a registration process (to correct the potential motion) may correct for a larger motion than actually present (due to the high noise, low SNR).
Martin
Not sure how the RMS motion is computed, and this could be an artifact of the particular program you are using to compute the motion. If there were such a thing as a perfect way to measure motion, we would simply use that measure as a goal to optimize. But any measure introduces a bias to its assumptions.
But it is certainly not impossible for DTIPrep (or any motion correction, such as in FSL) to make things worse. Especially if there is no motion present, a registration process (to correct the potential motion) may correct for a larger motion than actually present (due to the high noise, low SNR).
Martin
Oct 19, 2016 04:10 PM | Martin Styner
RE: Motion correction
All motion and eddy current correction is automatically applied to
the diffusion gradient directions, i.e. DTIPrep does not save any
DWI information that does not have a correspondingly corrected
gradient direction. Thus it does not offer an option to separately
apply the motion or eddy current correction.
Martin
Martin
