help > RE: HPF (SPM) vs. BPF (Conn) & multiple BPF
Oct 21, 2015  06:10 PM | Alfonso Nieto-Castanon - Boston University
RE: HPF (SPM) vs. BPF (Conn) & multiple BPF
Dear Pravesh,

These are very good questions. You are right that in the context of "activation" analyses one typically wants to make sure that the high-pass filter does not remove some of your effects of interest so in some scenarios you would want to decrease your high-pass frequency threshold to make sure it encompasses most of your experimental design frequencies (e.g. in a block design if twice your cycle length is above 120s then you would not want to use a 1/120 high-pass threshold because that would remove some of your between-condition main effects, so a lower frequency threshold such as 1/(2*T) might be preferable). In the context of connectivity analyses this is less of a concern, because any potential differences in connectivity between your blocks/conditions are already typically orthogonal to any potential differences in average BOLD signal activation between your blocks/conditions (and the latter are the ones that are affected by high-pass filtering). I have seen argued that for connectivity analyses in block-designs one might want to instead increase the high-pass frequency threshold above .01 (e.g. to 1/L where L is the block length) as a way to focus on within-block fluctuations (vs. between-block fluctuations) in the BOLD signal, yet there is no clear consensus on this and you will find plenty of analysis examples that use different thresholding choices. Personally I would typically use the default .01 threshold for task-related connectivity analyses, but I find other choices perfectly justifiable as well.  

Regarding using different band-pass filter thresholds for different subject groups, this has the potential of creating artifactual differences in connectivity between the groups so I would generally not recommend doing so. The reason is that functional connectivity strength typically varies across different frequency bins (and in a spatially non-homogeneous manner), so comparing the connectivity between two groups that have been differently band-pass filtered is very likely to confound these frequency-specific differences with any true connectivity differences between your groups. In your case, I believe differences in block length between the groups should be a considerably less worrysome source of potential artifactual between-group differences in connectivity than differences in band-pass filter parameters between the groups. If your block lengths are sufficiently large perhaps using a common high-pass threhsold of 1/L (where L is the shortest of the block lengths across the two groups) could be a reasonable way to minimize those differences and make the connectivity results across the two groups most comparable (at the cost of focusing on higher-frequency connectivity effects instead). 

Hope this helps
Alfonso
 
Originally posted by Pravesh Parekh:
Dear Dr. Alfonso,

I have two questions regarding implementation of BPF during the denoising step:

1. In a typical SPM analysis, we usually implement a high pass filter that is twice the cycle length. When doing a connectivity analysis in Conn, should I use the same value (i.e. BPF with lowerbound = 2xcycle length and upperbound = Inf) in the denoising step or use [0.008 Inf] (block design/task based experiment)?

2. If we are to implement HPF (twice the cycle length), and let's say that different groups of subjects have different block length, can we specify different denoising parameters for different subjects?


Thank you for your time


Warm Regards

Pravesh Parekh

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RE: HPF (SPM) vs. BPF (Conn) & multiple BPF
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