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Sep 9, 2016 02:09 PM | Scott Burwell - Minnesota Center for Twin and Family Research - University of Minnesota
RE: Correction for global signal
Thanks for further clarification on GSR concerns, Alfonso.
When using aCompCor, have there been documented recommendations for *how* to choose the explicit number of principal components to be regressed from WM and CSF regions? The Chai et al. (2012) methods paper gives results with regression of 1, 3, 5, and 10 principal components per each WM and CSF regions and eventually settles on 5 for extensive analyses; however, the choice of 5 seems pretty arbitrary. There are bound to be differences in the PC structure of research subjects' data, and I worry that choosing an arbitrary cutoff would result in either insufficient removal of "noise" or distortion of "neural signal." The latter case I think would be increasingly likely when choosing aCompCor with large numbers (e.g., 5 per CSF and WM) of components removed (is anything >1 safe? if not, why not just use the average?).
A method to determine on a single-subject basis the optimal number of artifact components to regress using aCompCor would be greatly appreciated. Are you aware if anyone out there in the CONN-world has implemented this?
When using aCompCor, have there been documented recommendations for *how* to choose the explicit number of principal components to be regressed from WM and CSF regions? The Chai et al. (2012) methods paper gives results with regression of 1, 3, 5, and 10 principal components per each WM and CSF regions and eventually settles on 5 for extensive analyses; however, the choice of 5 seems pretty arbitrary. There are bound to be differences in the PC structure of research subjects' data, and I worry that choosing an arbitrary cutoff would result in either insufficient removal of "noise" or distortion of "neural signal." The latter case I think would be increasingly likely when choosing aCompCor with large numbers (e.g., 5 per CSF and WM) of components removed (is anything >1 safe? if not, why not just use the average?).
A method to determine on a single-subject basis the optimal number of artifact components to regress using aCompCor would be greatly appreciated. Are you aware if anyone out there in the CONN-world has implemented this?
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| Title | Author | Date |
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| Natalia Yakunina | Jul 15, 2013 | |
| Alfonso Nieto-Castanon | Jul 18, 2013 | |
| Sascha Froelich | Sep 9, 2016 | |
| Nobody | Nov 20, 2020 | |
| Alfonso Nieto-Castanon | Sep 9, 2016 | |
| Ben R | Apr 8, 2020 | |
| Scott Burwell | Sep 9, 2016 | |
| Natalia Yakunina | Jul 23, 2013 | |
| Jeff Browndyke | Aug 29, 2015 | |
| Alfonso Nieto-Castanon | Aug 31, 2015 | |
| Jeff Browndyke | Aug 31, 2015 | |
| Jeff Browndyke | Aug 28, 2015 | |
| Alfonso Nieto-Castanon | Aug 28, 2015 | |
| Jeff Browndyke | Aug 29, 2015 | |
